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24 Mar, 2008

My Embrace of the OUT Campaign

Posted by: Katie Kish In: Atheism

I had pretty mixed feelings when the OUT campaign started. Now I find myself trying to get the big scarlet A posted onto my blog - for some reason it appears for a second, and then disappears… even if I host it on my own server. I don’t get it… but I’ll figure it out eventually - I’m sure.

Anyway - for some reason the past 2 or 3 years I’ve spent my time being … a half assed atheist of sorts. I’ve been involved with clubs on campus and CFI, gone to conferences and written up articles for various newspapers and magazines… but when it came down to it - I was always wishy washy. I often took the religious status of “Atheist” off of my facebook.

I think I finally decided it was because of some sort of inside guilt. I was worried about bugging my friends from back in the day who are very much christian. I was worried about secluding myself from so many people. It was almost like when you hear a racist joke, and you want to laugh - but you don’t want to be the first to laugh because… there are so many people around you that it could possibly offend… but if it’s funny - just laugh. That’s why it’s a joke, right?

Maybe that was a bad analogy - but that’s how it was feeling. I was afraid to laugh. There have been times in my life when people have asked me “well, what do you believe” and I have replied with “I don’t know” or “I’m still deciding” or “I used to be Christian” … I don’t like this.

Thus - from this day forward I am nothing less than an atheist. And I’m pretty proud of it. I don’t plan on having anymore wishy washy responses, or being careful of stepping on the toes of my religious friends - I love them, but if they can tell me they are christian, then I can damn well tell them that I’m an atheist. No more internalized guilt.

I think a lot of the problem has stemmed from losing friends to my lack of faith, and losing jobs to my lack of faith. So I started to get particular with who I chose to tell, and how abrasive I was when I told them. But you know what, if people don’t want to talk to me - that is their own narrow path that they have chosen. If a job doesn’t want me, then I don’t want to work for them.

A lot of you will probably say “…you’ve always been an atheist” … It’s a lot easier to be an atheist online in the privacy of my own blog than it is to be an atheist out there in the world. I get backed into corners, I get questioned and I get stared at. Such is life.

So, here is my A, and when I can make it work - I will sport it proudly on this blog.

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15 Responses to "My Embrace of the OUT Campaign"

1 | Brother Andy

March 24th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

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Why the large scarlet letter-ish A? I suppose I see some-what of a parallel, but why not something more friendly?
And both the ‘A’ on the side and the ‘A’ in your blog appear once and never disappear for me.

2 | Katie Kish

March 24th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

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if I’m not on the home page then the A on the side stays there. but if i’m on the home page the A on the sidebar vanishes! I’m not crazy - it really does.

I like the A as a symbol. It’s bold, its loud, its THERE, and it’s an A… and atheism starts… with an A…

3 | Pseudonym

March 25th, 2008 at 1:19 am

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I kinda like the title “half assed atheist”. Really. It’s not like you have to do anything to be an atheist, or people consider you “lapsed” if you don’t read “Origin of Species” every week and regularly spit on a statue of Ganesha.

4 | Lauren

March 25th, 2008 at 7:05 am

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You do well at being a half assed everything. Point in case: half assed vegitarian.

“Im a vegitarian. Except for big macs”

5 | dave elliott

March 25th, 2008 at 7:58 am

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Re: half assed atheist
You *do* have to do something to come off as a *real* atheist. Not being “wishy washy” as katie put it is one of the bif things you have to do.

Being an atheist people would expect that you could at least take a firm stance.

6 | Pseudonym

March 25th, 2008 at 8:07 am

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Being an atheist people would expect that you could at least take a firm stance.

Why? That’s like saying that being homosexual, people might expect one to be out, loud and proud. (Or, if you’re a guy, you might be expected to have impeccable taste, be a good dancer and able to advise on interior decoration.)
That doesn’t fit with most homosexual people that I know.

7 | dave elliott

March 25th, 2008 at 8:10 am

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I just find giving the answer “kinda” when someone asks if you’re an atheist isn’t very effective. I run a student group for atheists and if I didn’t take a firm stance on what I believe like say, the president of the christian club does, then I open myself and the whole group up for ridicule.

8 | Katie Kish

March 25th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

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I agree with Dave, and it is mostly why I’ve decided to take a more firm stance on the issue. … I feel like being wishy washy didn’t feel… powerful enough, or something. So when I’d get cornered by people asking me a million questions it was so much harder for me to give them firm answers because I didn’t have a firm title. Now I do - so now I think I can hold my own a little bit better.

9 | Pseudonym

March 25th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

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Oh, I misunderstood. I figured that “wishy-washy Atheist” meant that you were an Atheist, and if anyone asked, you told them you were an Atheist, maybe turned up to the odd local Atheist/Humanist/Secularist/whatever society meetings, but otherwise didn’t really do very much.

Not being an activist for your chosen beliefs or non-beliefs is not wishy-washy, unless your beliefs (or non-beliefs, I guess, but I don’t see how) specifically include activism as a tenet.

10 | Alon Levy

March 26th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

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You don’t need to be flamboyant to avoid internalized guilt. In fact, it’s very likely a way of externalizing your guilt. In a forum of Orthodox Jews who deconverted, I saw people say that your deconversion process is complete when you no longer turn the light on and off over and over on the Sabbath.

Also, a real atheist is someone who doesn’t believe in God. I don’t accept that you need to be a new atheist to be a real unbeliever any more than you have to be pro-occupation to be a real Jew.

11 | Katie Kish

March 27th, 2008 at 7:26 am

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where did anyone say that a real atheist is someone who needs to be out and proud? This is simply the route that I’m taking. we’ve said that to be an atheist you’re at least expected to say “I’m an atheist” not “well, i dunno…i might believe in god… but i dont really… i think its kinda silly but i dunoo… well maybe… but probably not…”

and i really dont think anyone can tell another person who to deal with their internalized guilt.

12 | Alon Levy

March 27th, 2008 at 11:47 am

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Right. And to vote Democratic, you have to say, “I’m a Democrat,” not, “I don’t know… I guess I lean liberal, but it depends on who’s running.”

13 | Katie Kish

March 27th, 2008 at 7:03 pm

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“well, i dunno…i might believe in god… but i dont really… i think its kinda silly but i dunoo… well maybe… but probably not…” /= atheism.

“well, i dunno…i might believe in god… but i dont really… i think its kinda silly but i dunoo… well maybe… but probably not…” = agnostic.

Your example is totally irrelevant.

14 | Michael

March 30th, 2008 at 5:07 am

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I’ve had a problem with religion and faith for a while now. But I don’t like being “loud and proud” about whatever I feel about it in my own life. I guess I would be leaning towards agnosticism…but “agnostic” always seems like such an unsure and undecided label to me.

I’m much more comfortable in saying I believe whatever I find to be true and part of reality. If I stick firmly and unequivocally to one side, I don’t feel I’m leaving myself room to change and develop as I learn and discover more…I’m afraid too much of my personal loyalties, or fear, or stubbornness will hinder me later on down the road. “A truth/reality/reason seeking being” is what I prefer. Lets me roll with my knowledge a lot more smoothly.

15 | Katie Kish

April 4th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

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Well, the cool think about agnostics … is that no one can really… disagree with them. Because they can always just say “yeah, maybe” it’s such a laid back position to take. I dont think undecided is very fair - i think a better way to look at it is “smart enough to know better” :D

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