Liberal Debutante

13 Apr, 2007

Coke Monster

Posted by: Katie Kish In: Capitalist Pigs| Food and Drink

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My sister drinks a lot of diet coke, it’s probably going to kill her (yes I’m aware that a. I am a horrible photoshopper and b. my sister is my polar opposite).

Today I got an e-mail from the ecologist informing me of the top 5 foods I should be avoiding, amongst those top 5 was good ol’ diet coke.

Coke has come up on this blog a few times - so I thought it was about time that I started to look into what all the fuss is really about… I’ll attempt to figure out why I tell my sister not to drink it, my mom refuses to buy it and why I was disgusted to see tons upon tons of cans of “coke zero” up on my landlord’s counter.

Diet Coke in particular started distribution in the states in 1982… Now… there is New Coke, Caffeine free, C2, Coca-Cola Zero, Coca-Cola Cherry (also in Diet), Coca/Diet - Coke with Lemon, Lime, Vanilla, Cherry Vanilla or Raspberry, Coca-Cola Blak and TaB.

If you’ve never heard of the web-site Killer Coke, I suggest you check it out. It looks at the coke factories world wide and exposes some of the unfair treatment of workers, deaths and other injustices that surround the distribution and production of coke. Workers were apparently killed by “thugs” out side of their factories and it also tracks all the negative news reports put out by the media over 2006… there is a TON of it.

In short here are some of the iffy things about coke. …It’s flat out not healthy. If you’re drinking coke excessively, or giving your child coke as a substitute for something healthy you’re not getting proper nutrients. Kids, for example, will drink coke instead of milk, which will contribute to a higher change of osteoporosis. (Don’t tell me that kids don’t drink THAT much coke - because they do.) Regular soft drink consumers get a lower intake of not only calcium but also magnesium, ascorbic acid, riboflavin and vitamin A. When I vocalized my disgust for the excessive amounts of coke upstairs my roommate made a very valid point “it’s called an addiction…” caffeine my friends. physical dependency.

Why care about not getting enough of that schtuff? …Well, here is what I know - and I’m not even a nutritionist…

Calcium: calcium deficiencies will affect bone and tooth formation. Long term deficiency will lead to osteoporosis deteriorating your bones and increasing the risks of breaks and fractures.

Magnesium: needed for over 300 different bio-chem reactions in your body. It maintains normal muscle and nerve functions, keeps bones strong, steadies heart rhythms and is essential to a healthy immune system. It regulates blood sugar and helps keep blood at a normal pressure. It fights against and helps prevent hypertension, cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C: seriously. ya’ll should know why vitamin c is important… Its important for the effective absorption of iron, structural component of blood vessels, tendons, ligaments and bones, it helps heal wounds and keeps you good and healthy from colds and other such annoy crap-o-la.

Riboflavin (B2): it is required for …a lot of cellular processes, keeps energy metabolism high and is required for the metabolism of fats, crabs and proteins, a deficiency will result in cracked lips, inflamed mouth and tongue, mouth ulcers and sore throats.

Vitamin A: aka - THE most important vitamin a woman should take - reduces the risk of breast cancer, helps with PMS and lowers bloating. So if you have a shitty time of the month with your period -take vitamin A, yo. Don’t give in to all that midol crap.

So those are just some of the things that excessive cola drinkers are shown to be missing out on. But getting lots of phosphoric acid, high fructose corn syrup, pesticides in the bottles and benzene! Woo! What does that mean? Well, again osteoporosis, the sugar level has DIRECT links with obesity and diabetes, cancers and a breakdown of the immune system. In any given bottle of coke you’ll be likely to find such toxins as lindane, DDT, malathion and chlorpyrifos. This originally concerned the public enough that the sales of coke went down by 15% in 2002, and in Kerala (the Indian success story) Coke was banned all together. If you think you’re skipping out on that sugar by drinking the diet versions - you’re getting saccharine instead - aka introducing cancer to your bladder.

Personally, I’d be most worried about the aspartame. It is linked to brain tumors, blindness, breast cancer, insomnia, chronic pains…and breaks down into formaldehyde. Sick, yo. Watch this movie. Seriously.

So these are the health risks - but here is what disgusts me even more; people who stick coke bottles in their 4 year old’s mouth, schools who plaster their hall ways with coke vending machines, parents who keep bottles upon bottles of this liquid candy stocked up in their closet… The fact of the matter is we are living in a country that has the easiest access to fresh drinking water - and what do we do instead? We start sucking back a liquid that kills workers, kills our bodies and contributes to the consumeristic economy.

Think about it

Mild dehydration will slow down your metabolism by as much as 3%, and over 75% of Americans don’t drink enough water in a day and this is the number one cause for daily fatigue. A single class of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs for over 90% of dieter. A drop of 2% in body water will screw over your short term memory, give you trouble with mathematics and slightly blur your eye sight at times. Simply drinking 5 glasses of water a day - which we ALL have readily at our disposal - will decrease the risk of colon cancer by 45%, breast cancer by 79% and bladder cancer by nearly 50%.

In contrast.

That myth that you can put a penny in coke and it will disintegrate? True. Same for nails and a t-bone steak. Some states even carry coke in trucks to remove blood stains off of highways. Need to clean your toilet? The acid in coke will remove the stains. It can be used to loosen a rusty bolt, clean corrosion, and removes grease from clothing….

…Right, so instead of drinking a resource that countries would literally kill for… that people die due to a lack of… we drink a liquid that literally rots our insides. Makes real sense. Really.

Sarah - please, drink water instead of diet coke.

27 Responses to "Coke Monster"

1 | Brother Andy

April 13th, 2007 at 12:33 pm

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Ironically I’m enjoying a ’sugar free’ Red Bull given to me by someone at work — it’s the first aspartame product I’ve consumed in a long time.
Try and find the documentary ‘Sweet Poison’ — it’s fantastic. Be wary of everything ’sugar free’. If KishCom wasn’t broken (*sigh*) I’d link to my post about it.

2 | Alon Levy

April 13th, 2007 at 1:38 pm

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FSM.

All those vitamins you say coke doesn’t have are missing from water, too. The best sources of vitamins A and C are fruit and vegetables, which soda isn’t a substitute for. And although you can get calcium from milk, you can get it from cheese, too; a slice of Kraft American cheese has as much calcium as a 250 ml glass of milk.

And this stuff about aspartame and cancer just isn’t true.

3 | Alon Levy

April 13th, 2007 at 1:40 pm

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Oh, and about that paragraph about the highway cleaning - it’s just unmitigated crap.

4 | Trev

April 13th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

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Alon - Water obviously doesn’t have those vitamins but it also doesn’t have all the bullshit in it. The point is that people who consume soda are less likely to consume things needed in a healthy diet. If you can’t make that connection I just feel bad for you.

I have personally seen coke used to clean up blood from highways. And even a simple google search will show that aspartame caused cancer in the brain of rats.

*edited by katie because I’m not against censoring people who are being jerks*

5 | King

April 13th, 2007 at 5:46 pm

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Trev your mean. We use coke at work to get the blood off of the cutting tables.

I must ask: Alon why do you always pick 1 - 3 things out of an article and scrutinize them when theyr not even the point of the article? Water doesnt got vitamins, but it also doesnt contain loads of chemicals. Aspartame is dangerous whether it causes cancer or not. Coke is corrosive and unhealthy even if it is “unmitigated crap” (which you certainly know nothing about but just googled to try and prove something wrong)

6 | Izzy

April 13th, 2007 at 6:00 pm

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My stepmother always tells me that Coke killed her uncle. Supposedly he drank tons of it for his entire life and when they autopsied him, all of his internal organs were hardened from something in the Coke. Ewww! And diet Coke is just vile…

7 | Alon Levy

April 13th, 2007 at 6:37 pm

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For your information: Snopes is a standard reference site for chainmails, urban legends, and the likes. The stuff Katie linked to is a low-grade advocacy website that uses the sort of reasoning that can prove anything.

So, King, either give me a respectable link saying a single thing I said in my comments is wrong, or take your tiny little brain, with its inability to read anything on this blog critically.

Thank you.

*edited by katie because I’m not against censoring people who are being jerks*

8 | Katie Kish

April 13th, 2007 at 6:42 pm

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Hey Alon, how about you get some respect and not tell people to fuck off or I’ll just delete your comments.

Both of the guys have said that they use coke to clean blood. Oh - i forgot, personal experience means dick all to you.

I’m not saying that the points you’re making are wrong - what I’m saying, and what King said and what Trevor eludes to is that you miss the POINT of posts and instead nit-pick. I can go through and take out all that information that you pointed out as “incorrect” by your standards, and the post WOULD NOT lose its point.

You’re the one who isn’t thinking critically here - you’re nit picking.

9 | Shnakepup

April 13th, 2007 at 10:53 pm

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Hi, I don’t want to fan the flames here or anything, but I came here specifically to add a comment about the Coke/Bloodstain thing.

Alon has a point about your myth paragraph, Katie. I’ve seen those kinds of “facts” forwarded in e-mails for years; Snopes is pretty much the only authority on that sort of stuff, and I wouldn’t be so quick to neglect or dismiss it. I’d really give it a read; it counters nearly all the claims you make here.

Overall, I’d agree with you. Drinking too much of any soda (not just Coke), is bad for you. But let’s not get overzealous and start claiming that it’s going to dissolve your organs ;) There’s no need to hate it or anything, just drink it in moderation (like anybody should do with anything).

10 | Shnakepup

April 13th, 2007 at 11:11 pm

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TREV - The point is that people who consume soda are less likely to consume things needed in a healthy diet…

You’ve got it backward: People with unhealthy diets would be more likely to drink soda, but soda doesn’t make you have an unhealthy diet.

Drinking soda doesn’t make you an unhealthy person, either; it’s the amount you “consume”. Remember: moderation.

TREV - I have personally seen coke used to clean up blood from highways…

KATIE - Oh - i forgot, personal experience means dick all to you.

Alon has a point; anecdotes don’t mean crap on the internet. Would you believe me if I said that I’ve personally (personally) seen Coke NOT clean up bloostains on the highway?

Anybody can type up some “facts” and start spreading them around, claiming that they’re true because so-and-so personally saw it happen, and eventually it gets spread around so much that people start believing it’s true.

You have to take everything you see on the internet with a grain of salt. Use some reason.

If Coke can dissolve bloodstains and rust, isn’t it reasonable to assume that ANY soft-drink can do so also, and that maybe Coke doesn’t have some unique insidious killer ingredient? And if Coke is a drink “that literally rots our insides”, why would it be allowed to be sold? Where are the class-action lawsuits? Where are all the millions of people in the hospital with rotted insides?

Seriously, Coke’s not that bad people…

11 | Katie Kish

April 13th, 2007 at 11:24 pm

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Shnakepup

I’ll admit - the coke/blood thing - I didn’t look up - but if i took it off, it wouldn’t deteriorate from the message of my post. I think people drink too much pop. Period. I don’t think kids should drink coke. I think its unhealthy for people to drink one or two cans of coke a day. …I appreciate the input, though.

12 | Katie Kish

April 13th, 2007 at 11:34 pm

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oh and about personal experience - If I know the person, like i know King… I believe what they’re saying. And i know Trev enough that I wouldn’t think he was lying. (granted, I only know him online…but i don’t assume that people are lying about such trivial things)

Personal experience is a completely valid argument in my mind.

13 | hélène!

April 14th, 2007 at 3:58 pm

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ok, so first off, props to kish for not drinking coke anymore!

moving on, i do have my reservations concerning aspartame, however, they extend to vivisection as well.
example: rats produce vitamin c, humans get it from food. this extends to multiple bodily and organ functions that differ. although i do recognize the advantages of testing on animals, Accutane was tested and sold before they realized that it caused birth defects if the product was used during pregnancy. studies with rats always get me sceptical… were there any studies on aspartame where the data involved primates?

i am pretty surprised to read so many responses to the whole ‘coke as a powerful cleaner and organ hardener’. if you were to drink a lot of citrus juice, which we consider healthier by our standards, the acid and sugar would still give you cavities, and are enough to give you ulcers, and one angry colon just like artificial fizzy drinks would. just brush your teeth people… and eat the actual fruit, you need the fiber anyway.

oh, you can get calcium from dark greens and supergrains like millet and quinoa! food is good. fuck milk.

my concerns and personal distaste for coke products are environmental and political. having all this information available to you, through killercoke and from even the reputable vandana shiva, is no excuse to continue to pursue people like me to change my mind about this sick corporation.

14 | Alon Levy

April 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm

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but if i took it off, it wouldn’t deteriorate from the message of my post.

No, but the rest of the stuff isn’t true, either. The aspartame/cancer thing is false. Of the five micronutrients you list as essential, the only one coke actively inhibits the absorption of, as opposed to not containing any, is calcium. If you don’t live in the US, you’re not getting any corn syrup in soda. Coke and Pepsi do have high pesticide residues in India, but that’s a problem with Indian groundwater that affects not only soft drinks but also bottled water.

So if you remove all the chaff from the post, you get exactly one valid point, the one about sugar, and that one you barely develop at all. 3QD did a better job back in December (but note that the post it links to doesn’t mention that orange juice has even more phosphoric acid than soda).

15 | Katie Kish

April 14th, 2007 at 4:32 pm

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Okay fine alon. Coke is a fucking wonder drink - I’m going to go drink an entire case of it and think that it is perfectly healthy for my body and for all those people in the world making it and for the environment.

16 | Jord

April 14th, 2007 at 4:43 pm

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Jesus Kish don’t give into his shit like that just retype everything u said to me on the phone last night…

coke has abandoned useing reculced contents - and instead use non-recycled plastic. plastic that KILLS you becuz of the chemicals. Coke used 600 million lbs of PET plastics - more then the ENTIRE amount of PET bottles recycled that year not to mention the recycling rates for those bottles dropped to 36%.

The packaging and bottles extract from non-renewable and consume losta energy & prodicue toxic chemcials. and they cut trees down n pollute like mad crazy.

n thats just wat I remember u saying to me. y let yourself fold so quick on the net when u have all that info floating around in ur head? show him up.

17 | Alon Levy

April 14th, 2007 at 6:01 pm

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Jord, about the plastics thing, a) I’d appreciate a link, and b) it doesn’t apply to cans.

Back when I lived in Israel, there was a news story about health problems due to plastics used in Coke bottles, but again, the problem wasn’t with Coke itself. If I remember correctly, the bottles were stored together with turpentine, which then got absorbed into the plastic, causing a few people to get sick.

18 | Trev

April 14th, 2007 at 6:54 pm

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He said that she said them - not that he had read it anywhere.

And it doesn’t matter if it applies to cans or not, the fact is that the plastics they use are detrimental to the environment, so sure if they stop producing cans, then that would likely be better - but they are sold all over the world in bottles.

More importantly his point is that there is information galore out there that katie could be looking up to make a more informed opinion about coke and to show you that it’s a horrible product.

19 | Alon Levy

April 14th, 2007 at 9:40 pm

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Yeah, I know. The “I’d appreciate a link” comment was something I threw at the gallery, mostly. And who knows - maybe Katie told Jordan something like, “Gristmill’s just linked to a study that says the plastic in Coke bottles is carcinogenic.”

And sure it matters that it doesn’t apply to cans. If the problem is with the plastic, then you can avoid all the health problems by drinking out of cans. So far I’ve seen exactly one health problem due to diet soda - the phosphoric acid inhibits the absorption of calcium - but that applies to orange juice, too.

20 | gordo

April 15th, 2007 at 3:00 am

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1) Anytime you find yourself drinking soda, remind yourself that you would have been better off drinking water. It’s hard to see why anyone would deprive themselves of calcium, just to prove some kind of point about cancer.

2) Coca-cola has an appalling human rights and labor record.

3) Coke causes worms to form in pork. See this video, and see the experiment repeated.

4) I have personally witnessed Alon cleaning Shnakepup’s blood off of a highway using Coke.

21 | Brother Andy

April 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pm

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I think it’s odd that no one has even mentioned High fructose corn syrup, and how terrible it is for you — and why coke uses it.

Secondly,

The aspartame/cancer thing is false.

While cancer isn’t on the list, Aspartame is the common denominator for over 92 different health symptoms at the root of modern disease (Biased link I know…).

22 | bianca

May 30th, 2007 at 7:36 pm

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:twisted: i dont beleave a soda like coke could kill a person that is really hard to beleave. i mean come on do you really think some thing like a coke could kill a person its not right even if u do drink alot of coke it wont be able to kill a person yet alone effect there bones so think about it just becouse you drink or eat alot of something thats bad for you are you going to die
NO the answer it that simple dont try to make it more confusing.

23 | tsume

May 30th, 2007 at 7:39 pm

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u all are screwed up to think a soda could kill some one

24 | Kian

May 30th, 2007 at 8:12 pm

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You do know that admins can see IPs and know that you’re the same person posting under different names, right?

25 | Liberal Debutante » Blog Archive » It’s all becoming clear to me now…

May 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

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[...] a product with such a controversy surrounding it wouldn’t remain so widely used. Since my last coke uprising I haven’t really drank that much - but I haven’t cut it out of my liquid diet either. [...]

26 | Nadine

May 6th, 2008 at 10:16 am

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Yeah, I was definitely drinking a (rare!) diet coke when this popped up in google reader. Then I felt the aspartame attacking my braaaaainnnnnnnn…

27 | Richard Neva

September 25th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

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Like man, your sister is outasight! I would give up eating for a date with her. Leave her alone and let drink all the Coke she wants, she is soooooo groovy!

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