I Can Out Logic You

Written by Katie Kish in Fun, Mmmath

Apparently, based on this (sort of) clever weave of semantics “The logical conclusion of atheism is that it’s illogical.” … If you abuse logic enough you can twist pretty much anything into a “truth” statement. You could very well, in mathematical and formal logic, make a statement claiming blue is red and still have it manage to actually equate to be “true”… that is if you do enough twisty bullshit in the middle.

Reading that post even someone how has never taken a logic course can see the problems, there are assumptions, jumps and irrational conclusions (mostly due to the fact that he had a predetermined statement in mind). It the atheist’s turn to play! yay!:

1. An extensional analytic sentence is one that, through substitution of synonyms for synonyms, results in a narrowly logical truth, e.g., a truth in “standard” propositional logic.

2. The sentence-scheme “c causes e” analytically entails (but is not synonymous with) “c and e exist; e’s existence stands to c in the relation of being the result of c’s existence, such that this relation is not that of e being narrowly, logically necessitated by c.” The reason there is no synonymy is that there are other features of the causal relation, features not mentioned in the entailed sentence.

3. The sentence-schema “x is omnipotent” analytically implies “for any possible existent y, necessarily, if x wills that y exist, y exists.”

4. The relation expressed by “x wills that y exist and y exists as a consequence of this willing” is a species of the relation expressed by “x causes y to exist.”

5. If God exists, God is omnipotent and the cause of the universe that exists.

6. If the universe is willed to exist by God and the universe does not exist, then it is the case that [by (3), (4) and (5)]

  • (a) God wills the universe to exist and the universe exists and
  • (b) God wills the universe to exist and the universe does not exist.

7. The proposition expressed by the sentence, “God wills the universe to exist and the universe exists, and God wills the universe to exist and the universe does not exist,” is a negation of a theorem of standard propositional logic, namely, that it is not the case that both p and not-p.

8. Therefore, God narrowly logically necessitates whatever possibility he causes to exist.

9. Therefore, it is not the case that the universe is caused to exist by God [from (2)].

10. Therefore, God does not exist [from (5) and (9)].

=D LoLz

3 comments op “I Can Out Logic You”

  1. King said:

    DORK

  2. A Fellow Atheist said:

    Wow…an intelligent liberal and atheist….I think I’m in love…

  3. Tobi Lehman said:

    I’ve been approached with similar twists of invalid logic supposedly supporting the existence of god. What’s worse is the unsound logic behind the “specified complexity” argument, it goes like this:

    -anything that exhibits specified complexity must necessarily have a creator
    -living organisms exhibit specified complexity
    -therefore living organisms have a creator

    what is ignored in this argument is the fact that any creator must also exhibit greater complexity and on and on ad infinitum, this is like a recursive function with no stopping condition.

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